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we have come too far right now with labor and business arguing about defense and we just can't have a 95% agreement get sabotaged over that. and 13 years is too long. the path for citizenship cannot take 13 years. it is not right for those people who have been living in this country and working hard and playing by the rules. >> that's a discussion we could have in the comfort of a cnn studio when we're all senators. >> kamala harris, ron brownstein, ana navarro, thank you. >>> head for our popular online segment called getting to know. this week you'll get to know more about california ag kamala harris. fareed zakaria "gps" is next. >>> this is "gps global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. a great show for you today. first up, the question for the economy. should we save or should we spend? what will get the economy moving faster? i'll talk to the chief proponent of spending. nobel prize winning economist paul krugman. then, the race for space. is america losing? china is building its own space station and the u.s. h
that if entitlements continue to go up and nothing is done about it what is going to happen is forget about defense but look at nondefense discretionary spending. this is education, spending all of the programs that you are passionate about that will be squeezed as entitlement spending is larger and larger. >> they will be squeezed. if we look beyond, look at 2025, 2030, something has to give. we can't keep squeezing nondefense, ndd, nondefense discretionary. that is already pret itty tight. so something will have to give. some combination of higher revenues, finding ways to save on entitlement. not necessarily benefit cuts but ways to save money on entitlements. use the bargaining power of medicare, fine. that's worth talking about but not a reason to not do deficit spending to support the economy now. >> the argument would be, and this is the argue made by bob rubin and many others that do some stimulus spending but put in place a long-term plan to ensure the markets that you have a plan. you are not hostage to fortune in case interest rates spike suddenly. off process in place that allows it to
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